This is our first SUPboarder PRO head to head test of a fairly new category of SUP to the market, the Crossover – Hybrid – ‘All-round’ – Multidiscipline boards. This test highlights the uses of these board and informs you of the benefits in having a board that can do it all.
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AlexT1974
3 years ago
Only one observation guys, it’s about your comments ref putting the bungee chords on the front of the Hypr. Having seen your vid, which are great as usual, I have to say that I see the point on not having the bungees on the front of the hypr. As you rightly say it’s a low ride and low volume, so in effect when downwinding and getting the nose dunked I think In this case the load on the bungee would act as a brake and risks you being thrown head first. What do you think? Being lower volume and having… Read more »
Hey Alex. yes you are right the lower volume nose wouldn’t work as well with the weight on it and really no good in surf or downwinding. But on flat water it would be doable. I feel this board could be thickened up a bit in the front section to make it work well in these conditions but understand that would change the feel of the board in other ways. Good comment.
I think there are plans to unleash a thicker volume Hypr Gun (called a gun XL) with bigger volume and thicker rails but same bottom shape more suited to this test, however I doubt that Hypr will put any bungees on the front as it’s not their style. Would be great to see this model tested next year if it is released soon. It’s going to be hollow Carbon so it will be light too. Can’t wait to see it and hope to see you test it too.
Oooo interesting! Very keen to see this happen and to try and get a hold of it. Thanks for the heads up.
backbeach
3 years ago
Great review yet again. Pity Sunova doesn’t want to get involved they’ve got a couple of boards that would’ve really fitted in. Anyways I know you were trying to steer away from rankings but I’m interested in the surf abilities of these boards, specifically the JP and Generation as the Hypr isn’t available in Oz. The outline and rocker and tail tends to point towards the JP and I think it’s extra width would also be an advantage in the open ocean environment at a guess. As well as downwinding, I’m aiming to paddle out and surf out wide bommies… Read more »
Hey Martin I would probably go towards the Gen if you want to get on the waves super early. The JP does turn better on a wave, but if you are just pick off a few big ones and riding shoulders the Gen would be my chosen weapon. But I will get Beau to add his comments too.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and asking those questions. Reuben had the chance to ride the JP Hybrid in waves and it definitely performs quite well. The trick would be not to catch the nose too much as it may have that tendency to track off with the sharper bow shape – a hard thing to do when the waves get a little bigger. If using the JP specifically for waves, the addition of the side fins would help tremendously for stability and also carving. I feel with the single fin at high speeds on waves, it wouldn’t have the… Read more »
Dennis Schmitz
2 years ago
Thank you guys for the great head to head board test.
Is the JP Hybrid with a width of 32“ much slower than the Generation with 28” width on flat water? Would you recommend to choose more likely a crossover board narrower than 30” to have a better touring ability?
I like the JP Hybrid very much but I fear that the width of 32” will make it much slower than a narrower board.
Hi Dennis, Both these boards are great but the narrower Gen is a must faster board. And depend on you weight I would say the Starboard would be the better board for Touring, due mainly to its length. Have you watch this video too https://supboardermag.com/2021/12/25/starboard-all-star-vs-starboard-generation-2022/. you might find it interesting too? thanks Reuben
Hi , do you think JP hybrid can be a good one for lake using so often windy and chop but not real “surf” I’m interested in JP as the wind surf option even if I will using 80% long paddle and 20%!easy windsurf..I’m scared for long paddle it can have poi straight line riding ability .. thanks Lorenzon
Yes the JP hybrid would work really well in that choppier stuff it is a fantastic all-round board. It has its limitations of course but it could work well for what you’re asking. I just want JP to do a revamp of this and also give us some longer and narrower sizes as well for others to choose from.
Thanks and congratulations for your web site .. full of useful contents.. as told I was looking for a good paddle board for long distance that can sometimes allows some vindsurf .. I understand from your videos that inflatable are defently less performer if no need of trnlsdpotrt or storage .. so I vas looking for a rigid one the other idea where Starboard wind-up 12x 30 , can this one paddle faster and better than JP ? Board like Fanatic Outback seem to big to ride well ,,, do you know if there are touring board with Mast foot… Read more »
Hi Lorenzo, Thanks for the kind words about the website. A hard board is the way to go if transport isn’t any issue. I have had a look around to see what might be best and have come up with the same boards as you. The JP outback, could work ok but its probably too wide for you really and because of that not that fast to paddle. Its the same for the hybrid really tool and that shorter also. I like the look of the Starboard Go wind SUP 12×30 ASAP https://sup.star-board.com/paddle-board/hard-paddle-board/go/. This will work well as a SUP… Read more »
Thanks !! I also ended between JP Hybrid and Starboard .. maybe starboard is better performing in paddling , they claim it can be compared to a touring Race board ..but brand claim are often a little bit of marketing 🙂 !! one aspect of the JP I think it can be more easy to turn and maneuver but as I will not surfing on it I think the reasonable choice can be Starboard .. as from your review I saw starboard gneiss 12,6 is a very good board , the 12×30 go asapws perhaps is very close to it… Read more »
Sounds great. I think the longer Starboard will be better. I wish they made the Hybrid in a 12×30. Or even better would be a Starboard Generation with a Windsurf thread. I also see you sent us the question via email too. I wont get back to that one unless you need more questions answered. Thanks Reuben
I am casually interested in the Generation 12.6.I am 200 pounds plus wet suit weight and short. Still a beginner. I have the Starboard Go 10.8 x 31 which I like. Should I get the generation 12.6 x 30 or 12.6 x 28 ? would I eventually get bored with the 30 inch width ?
Also on my short list would be a Sunnova expedition, infinity eticket and Sic Okeanos. all in 12.6 length. Out of these 4 boards which one do you prefer ? Thanks
Hey Cam, I haven’t paddled all of the boards you have suggested but I definitely feel that the starboard is a board you would be happy with, it does everything so well. Width wise I think you are better off going for the 28 wide as you said you may get a little bit bored with the 30 wide. And as you are on 31 wide board now and find absolutely fine I think the transition to 28 won’t be too bad in time.
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Only one observation guys, it’s about your comments ref putting the bungee chords on the front of the Hypr. Having seen your vid, which are great as usual, I have to say that I see the point on not having the bungees on the front of the hypr. As you rightly say it’s a low ride and low volume, so in effect when downwinding and getting the nose dunked I think In this case the load on the bungee would act as a brake and risks you being thrown head first. What do you think? Being lower volume and having… Read more »
Hey Alex. yes you are right the lower volume nose wouldn’t work as well with the weight on it and really no good in surf or downwinding. But on flat water it would be doable. I feel this board could be thickened up a bit in the front section to make it work well in these conditions but understand that would change the feel of the board in other ways.
Good comment.
I think there are plans to unleash a thicker volume Hypr Gun (called a gun XL) with bigger volume and thicker rails but same bottom shape more suited to this test, however I doubt that Hypr will put any bungees on the front as it’s not their style. Would be great to see this model tested next year if it is released soon. It’s going to be hollow Carbon so it will be light too. Can’t wait to see it and hope to see you test it too.
Thanks
Oooo interesting! Very keen to see this happen and to try and get a hold of it. Thanks for the heads up.
Great review yet again. Pity Sunova doesn’t want to get involved they’ve got a couple of boards that would’ve really fitted in. Anyways I know you were trying to steer away from rankings but I’m interested in the surf abilities of these boards, specifically the JP and Generation as the Hypr isn’t available in Oz. The outline and rocker and tail tends to point towards the JP and I think it’s extra width would also be an advantage in the open ocean environment at a guess. As well as downwinding, I’m aiming to paddle out and surf out wide bommies… Read more »
Hey Martin I would probably go towards the Gen if you want to get on the waves super early. The JP does turn better on a wave, but if you are just pick off a few big ones and riding shoulders the Gen would be my chosen weapon. But I will get Beau to add his comments too.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and asking those questions. Reuben had the chance to ride the JP Hybrid in waves and it definitely performs quite well. The trick would be not to catch the nose too much as it may have that tendency to track off with the sharper bow shape – a hard thing to do when the waves get a little bigger. If using the JP specifically for waves, the addition of the side fins would help tremendously for stability and also carving. I feel with the single fin at high speeds on waves, it wouldn’t have the… Read more »
Thank you guys for the great head to head board test.
Is the JP Hybrid with a width of 32“ much slower than the Generation with 28” width on flat water? Would you recommend to choose more likely a crossover board narrower than 30” to have a better touring ability?
I like the JP Hybrid very much but I fear that the width of 32” will make it much slower than a narrower board.
Hi Dennis, Both these boards are great but the narrower Gen is a must faster board. And depend on you weight I would say the Starboard would be the better board for Touring, due mainly to its length. Have you watch this video too https://supboardermag.com/2021/12/25/starboard-all-star-vs-starboard-generation-2022/. you might find it interesting too? thanks Reuben
Many thanks Reuben
Hi , do you think JP hybrid can be a good one for lake using so often windy and chop but not real “surf” I’m interested in JP as the wind surf option even if I will using 80% long paddle and 20%!easy windsurf..I’m scared for long paddle it can have poi straight line riding ability ..
thanks Lorenzon
Yes the JP hybrid would work really well in that choppier stuff it is a fantastic all-round board. It has its limitations of course but it could work well for what you’re asking.
I just want JP to do a revamp of this and also give us some longer and narrower sizes as well for others to choose from.
Thanks and congratulations for your web site .. full of useful contents.. as told I was looking for a good paddle board for long distance that can sometimes allows some vindsurf .. I understand from your videos that inflatable are defently less performer if no need of trnlsdpotrt or storage .. so I vas looking for a rigid one the other idea where Starboard wind-up 12x 30 , can this one paddle faster and better than JP ? Board like Fanatic Outback seem to big to ride well ,,, do you know if there are touring board with Mast foot… Read more »
Hi Lorenzo, Thanks for the kind words about the website. A hard board is the way to go if transport isn’t any issue. I have had a look around to see what might be best and have come up with the same boards as you. The JP outback, could work ok but its probably too wide for you really and because of that not that fast to paddle. Its the same for the hybrid really tool and that shorter also. I like the look of the Starboard Go wind SUP 12×30 ASAP https://sup.star-board.com/paddle-board/hard-paddle-board/go/. This will work well as a SUP… Read more »
Thanks !! I also ended between JP Hybrid and Starboard .. maybe starboard is better performing in paddling , they claim it can be compared to a touring Race board ..but brand claim are often a little bit of marketing 🙂 !! one aspect of the JP I think it can be more easy to turn and maneuver but as I will not surfing on it I think the reasonable choice can be Starboard .. as from your review I saw starboard gneiss 12,6 is a very good board , the 12×30 go asapws perhaps is very close to it… Read more »
Sounds great. I think the longer Starboard will be better. I wish they made the Hybrid in a 12×30. Or even better would be a Starboard Generation with a Windsurf thread.
I also see you sent us the question via email too.
I wont get back to that one unless you need more questions answered.
Thanks Reuben
yes perfect ..let you know updated .. Lorenzo.
Reuben,
I am casually interested in the Generation 12.6.I am 200 pounds plus wet suit weight and short. Still a beginner. I have the Starboard Go 10.8 x 31 which I like. Should I get the generation 12.6 x 30 or 12.6 x 28 ? would I eventually get bored with the 30 inch width ?
Also on my short list would be a Sunnova expedition, infinity eticket and Sic Okeanos. all in 12.6 length. Out of these 4 boards which one do you prefer ? Thanks
Hey Cam, I haven’t paddled all of the boards you have suggested but I definitely feel that the starboard is a board you would be happy with, it does everything so well. Width wise I think you are better off going for the 28 wide as you said you may get a little bit bored with the 30 wide. And as you are on 31 wide board now and find absolutely fine I think the transition to 28 won’t be too bad in time.
Thanks Reuben